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Robert The Bruce RnD KNOWN FACTS Robert The Bruce at Wiki. Email from Roy to Bruce. Posting the following because Roy is willing to bet this is above Robert The Bruce. once source doubts relations with Vikings and descrepancies with names. This will require the most research of all family ties. An interesting account is found in Florence Van Rensselaer, The Livingston Family in America and Its Scottish Origins, New York, 1949, pages 30 and 31: BRUCE (BRUS, BRUSI, BRUSEE) The first Bruce to go to Normandy, had left Orkney, where his forbears had been earls, or jarls, since the fifth generation from their earliest known ancestor Sveide, of Upland, a Viking, circa 760, who ruled until he died, and thereafter his descendants for three generations lived in Denmark and Norway, one Sigurd, becoming the first Earl of Orkney. For six more generations, these hardy men fought by land and sea, when another Sigurd, the seventh Earl, married for his second wife Olith or Thora, daughter of Malcolm II, king of Scotland, and his grandson married as his second wife, Felicia, daughter of Robert Duke of Normandy, her brother being William the Conqueror. Their second son was named Brusi, or Robert de Brusee who first went to Norway, but before long attached himself to the service of his maternal grandfather, and settled in Normandy, where he became eminent and powerful in that Court; being Councillor to Robert I, Duke of Normandy, the grandfather referred to, built the Castle of “la Brusee or Bruis”, now Brix, which became “the Crade of the royal house of Scotland,” and married Emma, daughter of Alain, Earl of Brittany. Again after six generations the three last having been barons of Annandale, and all but two named Robert, came,... ...Brusi, Earl of Orkney, and Earl of Cathanes and Sutherland. He died in 1031; married Ostrida, daughter of Regenwald Wolfson, Earl of Gothland. Earl Brusi held two-thirds of Orkney, by the support of King Olaf, of which he lost one half in 1030. He was converted to Christianity in the eleventh century. http://www.robertsewell.ca/bruce.html Search for Poppa, Charlemagne, and Rollo yield no hits in The Complete Peerage, except this enjoyable quote
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''People don't know how entertaining a study it [genealogy] is. Who begot whom is a most amusing kind of hunting; one recovers a grandfather instead of breaking one's own neck—and then one grows so pious to the memory of a thousand persons one never heard of before?'' Horace Walpole to the Rev. Mr. Cole, 5 June 1775. |
Search on Robert Burnet Jones held the office of Attorney-General [Barbados]. This just caught my attention. http://thepeerage.com/p2431.htm Which is easier to search than the PDF book July 30, 2012 2:39 AM * THE BRUCE:
My mother (Lilja Costello) told me (Bruce) stories of Robert Bruce. I remember in particular the one about the spider. She told me her grandmother (Caroline) had told her. She also said we were related somehow because of Norfolk (Fitzalan-Howard, Fitzalan being descendents of Bruce).
Whether she had it right or not, can't say. One does not question one's mother when she is telling you that you were named for this Great King, and related to him to boot!
To this day I try and avoid harming spiders in my house... poisonous ones excepted.
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Chapters below CHAPTER I CHAPTER II CHAPTER III CHAPTER IV CHAPTER V CHAPTER VI CHAPTER VII CHAPTER VIII CHAPTER IX CHAPTER XI CHAPTER XIII CHAPTER XIV CHAPTER XV |
LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS, 15 GENERAL INTRODUCTION AND HISTORICAL SURVEY, . . 19 SCANDINAVIAN ORIGIN, 29 THE BRUGES IN SCOTLAND, 55 KING ROBERT BRUCE, OF SCOTLAND, 75 BRUGES OF CLACKMANNAN, CULTMALINDIE, AND CAITH- NESS, 91 BRUGES OF KINLOSS, ELGIN, AND KINCARDINE, ... 109 9 CONTENTS PAGE BRUGES OF AIRTH, 127 THE CAVENDISH-BRUCE FAMILY OF THE DUKES OF DEVONSHIRE, 139 ROYAL HOUSE OF STEWART, 153 CHAPTER X LINE OF THE IRISH KINGS, 177 ANCIENT ROYAL HOUSE OF SCOTLAND, 191 CHAPTER XII LINE OF THE SAXON KINGS, 209 BRUCE ANCESTRY FROM ROYAL HOUSES OF CONTINEN- TAL EUROPE, 223 COLLATERAL FAMILIES OF SCOTLAND, 247 CASTLES AND CHURCHES, 281 10 |
Note, before even entering the book, Roy notices Chapter 2 - Scandinavian Origins. On the Great Ancestors page, Roy noted that "Poppa would take one of the most extensive searches". Chapter 2 seems to dispell this. Keep in mind, no research by Roy should be copied or reposted on the Internet. Why?, because a good portion of it is not 100% accurate. I make no bones about that. One Goal is to bring the family members to the world, mostly the forgotten or unknown ones, Like The Stoneson Brothers. Another goal is to locate relatives in order to find more older photos and connect to each other, since we are now spread about the globe. Roy now realizes that is what happened to the Taylors, Richard and Eliza. He started in England and she in Barbados. "UPON the pages of Scottish history no name shines brighter than that of Bruce." p. 19 recognizes our subject as "King Robert Bruce— THE BRUCE" p. 21 "On the following pages the line has been genealogically traced, generation by generation, to early in the eighth century. " p. 21 the most wonderful conquering and colonizing movements that the world had ever known. In fast-sailing ships the vikings and their followers made incursions upon Northern Europe and the islands of Britain. They considered war the most honorable profession and, even as Tacitus said of the Germans, "they deemed it a disgrace to acquire by sweat what they might obtain by blood." Or, as another ancient historian quaintly wrote, they were "people desperate in at- tempting the conquest of other realms, being very sure to finde warmer dwellings anywhere than in their own homes." They harried England, Denmark, and Europe, plundering cities, devastating countries, and carrying away spoils by the ship-load. Of such mettle were these progenitors of the royal house of Bruce. On the direct male line the Bruce pedigree goes to Sveide, a viking who lived in the middle of the eighth century. On the distaff side the pedigree is traced through various lines, male and female, to the founders of the several principalities or kingdoms that finally became the nation of Norway. In the most ancient chronology Odin, a prince who, in the fourth or fifth century of the Christian era, was driven, by the Romans, from his domains on the border of the North Sea, led his Germanic tribes to the Northland. He was a famous warrior, always victorious, and when he died he divided his new kingdom between his sons and companions in arms. His son Skioldr established himself at Lethra upon the island of Zeeland and founded the kingdom of Denmark. In the course of time, sacrifices were made to Odin, he received 'Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS', Page 30 divine honors, and was worshiped as the creator of the uni- verse. Some authors regard him entirely as a mythological personage, while others believe in his historical existence. But the list of Scandinavian kings who claimed descent from him is accepted by historians without reserve, after the seventh century.* Beginning with Skioldr, son of Odin, the fourteenth king of Lethra was Half dan II., son of Frode III. The kingdom was divided between the two sons of Halfdan into Lethra and Roeskilde, but in a later generation was reunited by Ivar Vid- fami of Roeskilde, the son of Halfdan III. Sniale by his wife Alfo. Halfdan III. was a son of Olaj, the Sharp-eyed, of the Rurik line of kings who were foremost among those eastern princes whose territories and powers were ultimately merged in the Russian empire. With Ivar Vidfami, or Widefathom, we are on firmer his- torical ground. His father Halfdan III. was murdered by Gudrod, King of Scandia, and the son went forth to Sweden with an army to avenge the death of his parent. King In- giald, whose daughter Asa had instigated her husband Gud- rod to kill Halfdan, was so hard pressed that he burned him- self and all his court in a big banqueting hall. After this Ivar acquired "all the Swede land," Denmark, a "great part of Saxon-land," all the East-realm, and part of England. From him came the early kings of Sweden and of Denmark. Auda Diuphaudza, daughter of Ivar Vidfami, married Rad- * Manuel d'Histoire, de Genealogie et de Chronologic de tous les Etats du Globe, by A. M. H. J. Stokvis, Vol. II, p. 320. 'Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS', Page 31 COOL, the whole book appears to be here http://www.unz.org/Pub/WeeksLyman-1907n02 |
CITATION & SOURCES [1] http://www.halfdan.is:2317/halfdan_f?lang=en;i=519118 (Private db) [2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=buchroeder&id=I576257889 [3] http://www.halfdan.is DataBase of 500,000+ [4] source [5] Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS Author of Prominent Families of New York 1907 "Book of Bruce; ancestors and descendants of King Robert of Scotland. Being an historical and genealogical survey of the kingly and noble Scottish house of Bruce and a full account of its principal collateral families. With special reference to the Bruces of Clackmannan, Cultmalindie, Caithness, and the Shetland Islands, and their American descendants" |
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