Robert The Bruce RnD
The purpose of this page to to hold "research" regarding Robert The Bruce in this families branches.
It is the process of Roy doing a genealogy search trying to go beyond current family members.
Following gets boring so feel free to pass onto more exotic finds within christopherson.net. There is no "Update Date" which is on many other pages at this site.
Rather, all of the following text will be revised on-the-fly or added to at any time .
KNOWN FACTS
Robert The Bruce , is a well known historical figure. Roy will place a few key reference points, then specific lineage and research leading up to Robert The Bruce. While Roy believes he is related, keep in mind that records beyond 1800 cannot always be 100% accurate.
Robert The Bruce at Wiki.
Robert I (11 July 1274 – 7 June 1329), popularly known as Robert the Bruce (Medieval Gaelic: Roibert a Briuis; modern Scottish Gaelic: Raibeart Bruis; Norman French: Robert de Brus or Robert de Bruys), was King of Scots from 25 March 1306, until his death in 1329.
His paternal ancestors were of Scoto-Norman heritage (originating in Brix, Manche, Normandy), and his maternal of Franco-Gaelic.[3] He became one of Scotland's greatest kings, as well as one of the most famous warriors of his generation, eventually leading Scotland during the Wars of Scottish Independence against the Kingdom of England. He claimed the Scottish throne as a fourth great-grandson of David I, and fought successfully during his reign to regain Scotland's place as an independent nation. Today in Scotland, Bruce is remembered as a national hero....he died at the head of the Scottish contingent at the Battle of Teba. He was killed in the battle fighting the Moors, but the king's heart was recovered and brought back to Scotland.
Emails from Bruce Costello
Sun July 29, 2012 1:50 PM
We're related to Wallace??? redacted
Sun July 29, 2012 5:29 PM
[Bruce has] been to Bannockburn; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn
Emails from Roy to Bruce on Robert
4/27/2010 1:37 AM
ON TO THE RELATIVES
The movie 1066 is about one. Robert De BRUSSE character was in Patriot starring Mel Gibson. Robert betrayed Mel's character following his fathers advice. 1066 The Movie has been in production about a year now. I wrote in 1980, wondered if we were related to Erik the Red, answer (below). [See Great Ancestor Page under Erik the Red]
This is NOT Robert The Bruce
Roy's 24th Great Grandfather, Robert De BRUSSE b. 1036, Scotland, is the son of Brúsi Sigurðsson, born Abt. 987 AD, from Orkney Islands (Earls), Sigurðsson.
...One source doubts relations with Vikings and descrepancies with names. This will require the most research of all family ties...
While most of our GF's were just poor dirt farmers, there are many holding high offices of the day including a Vassel to our GGF, just found and King FairHair of Norway, he was a busy guy with many, many children. Brúsi Sigurðsson great grandson is our 21st GGF, Magnus III "The Bare-Footed" OLAFSSON, slain in battle on 24 Aug 1103.
UPDATE July 30, 2012: The Robert The Bruce which is the topic of this web page was born in 1274, not earlier as this one was.
See July 29th below for continuation on research of the Brusi born in 987...
2/12/2011 12:47 PM
came across this very cool picture of a King quite awhile ago and it really dumbfounded me. Here I follow adding some children and come across the very same painting at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II_of_France
Image is in upper right
Now his relation is not direct. For me, paintings help bring them alive as well, if done semi-accurately.
He is Father of mother-in-law of 3rd great grandson of 26th great grandfather of ours.
Search done: Hafliði Steinsson and Kings guard
Email from Roy to Bruce. Posting the following because Roy is willing to bet this is above Robert The Bruce.
Sun July 29, 2012 3:41 PM
No, Sorry no relationship. I enjoyed Braveheart and something got me going on it....
Wanted to confirm that this was The Bruce
http://www.bofw.co.uk/acatalog/Robert_Bruce_at_Bannockburn_1314__Painted.html
Which led to this. Bohun is mentioned having (redacted - died in battle) by Bruce in figure above.
*Sir Henry de Bohun and bruce*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_de_Bohun
Now reading this to recognize any keywords to look for in research...redacted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Robert_I_of_Scotland
See that they are all tied together, Robert The Bruce, Wallace. Now reading wiki page on The Bruce.
With The Bruce, a.k.a. Robert I on top list to research. May take 6 months to gather enough to be really certain, yet, I believe I mentioned he was already on our
Great Ancestors page under another name. Created an RnD page on him [this page]
http://www.christopherson.net/genealogy/grandparents3.html#Brusi
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Have to start over because this entry [Brusi] was related to Magnus III.
Then try and move facts from there and Taylors RnD onto Individuals pages or G.A. page in The Bruce's case. I did not know he spoke French on his fathers side.
Actually other than the name, knew nothing and quite ignorant. While I enjoy History, just never got any good classes in any of the schools to learn it. So all self taught.
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Reading what I already typed below... redacted
"One ancestor which I am trying to clean up his branch, leads to Wallace (Braveheart)."
Was cleaning up the sons of Hafliði Másson which leads down to Hafliði Steinsson, b. Abt. 1252
My notes under Steinsson are as follows, hence starting a journey to Wallace (Braveheart) and back to my original search of Robert The Bruce (this email):
*Hafliði Steinsson NOTES*: Occupation: Prestur á Breiðabólstað og ráðsmaður á Hólum., управител и свещенник, Præst i Breidabolstad og "rádsmadur" i Holum
This Einar’s father was Halfid Steinsson, who for a while was one of the King’s Guards at the Court of King Eirik Magnusson, the Priest-Hater of Norway.
THE MAID OF NORWAY
In the late fourteenth century, Margaret, daughter of King Eric II of Norway, set out on a fateful
journey. At the age of eight, Margaret had been declared Queen of Scotland and was now sailing to
meet her intended bridegroom, Edward, Prince of Wales. A crowd of thousands awaited her at Scone
Abbey. But Margaret never arrived and wedding plans came to naught.
A decade later, a German merchant by the name of Ludwig travels to Iceland with his wife. There,
they cross paths with *Hafliði Steinsson*, a priest who once served as chaplain to King Eric and was
Margaret’s tutor before she left Norway.
Together, they uncover a secret regarding Margaret’s death. Ludwig and his wife embark an adventurous journey that leads them from one country to
another - from Iceland to the Orkney Islands,
Scotland, England, Germany and Norway. The pair encounter Edward I and his son Edward, the future
King of England, as well as their fiercest opponent, the Scot William Wallace (Braveheart), and are
witness to the final battle between these bitter enemies.
By Ragnar Arnalds
. . . from the Ministry to the middle ages
Ragnar Arnalds (b. 1938) is a playwright and author of historical novels. Ragnar was a Member of
Parliament for 32 years, during which time he served as Minister of Education and Transport and
Minister of Finance. The Maid of Norway is his third novel based on historical
From PDF http://uppheimar.is/myndir/uppheimar_foreighnrights2010_web.pdf
When Wallace was growing up, King Alexander III [11] ruled Scotland. His reign had seen a period of peace and economic stability. In 1286, however, Alexander died after falling from his horse.
The heir to the throne was Alexander's granddaughter, Margaret, Maid of Norway. As she was still a child and in Norway, the Scottish lords set up a government of guardians. Margaret fell ill on the voyage to Scotland and died in Orkney. The lack of a clear heir led to a period known as the 'Great Cause', with several families laying claim to the throne.
With Scotland threatening to descend into civil war, King Edward was invited in by the Scottish nobility to arbitrate. Before the process could begin, he insisted that all of the contenders recognise him as Lord Paramount of Scotland. In early November 1292, at a great feudal court held in the castle at Berwick-upon-Tweed, judgement was given in favour of John Balliol having the strongest claim in law.
Edward proceeded to reverse the rulings of the Scottish Lords and even summoned King John Balliol to stand before the English court as a common plaintiff. John was a weak king, known as "Toom Tabard" or "Empty Coat". John renounced his homage in March 1296 and by the end of the month Edward stormed Berwick-upon-Tweed, sacking the then-Scottish border town. In April, the Scots were defeated at the Battle of Dunbar in East Lothian and by July, Edward had forced John to abdicate. Edward then instructed his officers to receive formal homage from some 1,800 Scottish nobles (many of the rest being prisoners of war at that time)
wiki for wallace" (Braveheart) - END
RC
Sun July 29, 2012 1:50 PM
One ancestor which I am trying to clean up his branch, leads to Wallace (Braveheart).
redacted
Goes into Robert The Bruce which is on my To Do list, along with 6 other immediate tasks, and Maid of Norway's death, which started me reading all this. All inter-twined. Related to Haakon, King.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace
One reason Wallace has stuck in Roy's brain besides Bruce's curiosity and help has been the Sign-off by Barbara Simpson Show featuring Gibson yelling Freedom prior to his demise in the movie.
From the Christopherson Family DataBase:
Brúsi Sigurðsson, a.k.a. Brusi SIGURDSSON, 16th Jarl of ORKNEY, Born Abt. 987 AD, Orkneyjum (Orkney) [1] Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland [2]
Died Aft. 31 Aug 1030 [2] Here he is listed on our Great Ancestor page.

This link to a PDF report is on Brúsi Sigurðsson.

Relationship Chart_CnutTheGreatToRoy.pdf

This link to a PDF report is on Bruce to Brúsi Sigurðsson.
NOTES:
Age at death: possibly 44 years old Sources: - person: HH
once source doubts relations with Vikings and descrepancies with names. This will require the most research of all family ties.
An interesting account is found in Florence Van Rensselaer, The Livingston Family in America and Its Scottish Origins, New York, 1949, pages 30 and 31: BRUCE (BRUS, BRUSI, BRUSEE)
The first Bruce to go to Normandy, had left Orkney, where his forbears had been earls, or jarls, since the fifth generation from their earliest known ancestor Sveide, of Upland, a Viking, circa 760, who ruled until he died, and thereafter his descendants for three generations lived in Denmark and Norway, one Sigurd, becoming the first Earl of Orkney. For six more generations, these hardy men fought by land and sea, when another Sigurd, the seventh Earl, married for his second wife Olith or Thora, daughter of Malcolm II, king of Scotland, and his grandson married as his second wife, Felicia, daughter of Robert Duke of Normandy, her brother being William the Conqueror. Their second son was named Brusi, or Robert de Brusee who first went to Norway, but before long attached himself to the service of his maternal grandfather, and settled in Normandy, where he became eminent and powerful in that Court; being Councillor to Robert I, Duke of Normandy, the grandfather referred to, built the Castle of “la Brusee or Bruis”, now Brix, which became “the Crade of the royal house of Scotland,” and married Emma, daughter of Alain, Earl of Brittany. Again after six generations the three last having been barons of Annandale, and all but two named Robert, came,...
...Brusi, Earl of Orkney, and Earl of Cathanes and Sutherland. He died in 1031; married Ostrida, daughter of Regenwald Wolfson, Earl of Gothland. Earl Brusi held two-thirds of Orkney, by the support of King Olaf, of which he lost one half in 1030. He was converted to Christianity in the eleventh century. http://www.robertsewell.ca/bruce.html
Malcolm II of Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_II_of_Scotland
Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Modern Gaelic: Maol Chaluim mac Choinnich, known in modern anglicized regnal lists as Malcolm II; died 25 November 1034), was King of the Scots from 1005 until his death He was a son of Cináed mac Maíl Coluim; the Prophecy of Berchán says that his mother was a woman of Leinster and refers to him as Máel Coluim Forranach, "the destroyer".
Search for Poppa, Charlemagne, and Rollo yield no hits in The Complete Peerage, except this enjoyable quote
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