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Robert The Bruce RnD
The purpose of this page to to hold "research" regarding Robert The Bruce in this families branches.
It is the process of Roy doing a genealogy search trying to go beyond current family members.
Following gets boring so feel free to pass onto more exotic finds within christopherson.net. There is no "Update Date" which is on many other pages at this site.
Rather, all of the following text will be revised on-the-fly or added to at any time .

KNOWN FACTS
Robert The Bruce , is a well known historical figure. Roy will place a few key reference points, then specific lineage and research leading up to Robert The Bruce. While Roy believes he is related, keep in mind that records beyond 1800 cannot always be 100% accurate.

Robert The Bruce at Wiki.
Robert I (11 July 1274 – 7 June 1329), popularly known as Robert the Bruce (Medieval Gaelic: Roibert a Briuis; modern Scottish Gaelic: Raibeart Bruis; Norman French: Robert de Brus or Robert de Bruys), was King of Scots from 25 March 1306, until his death in 1329.

His paternal ancestors were of Scoto-Norman heritage (originating in Brix, Manche, Normandy), and his maternal of Franco-Gaelic.[3] He became one of Scotland's greatest kings, as well as one of the most famous warriors of his generation, eventually leading Scotland during the Wars of Scottish Independence against the Kingdom of England. He claimed the Scottish throne as a fourth great-grandson of David I, and fought successfully during his reign to regain Scotland's place as an independent nation. Today in Scotland, Bruce is remembered as a national hero....he died at the head of the Scottish contingent at the Battle of Teba. He was killed in the battle fighting the Moors, but the king's heart was recovered and brought back to Scotland.


Emails from Bruce Costello
Sun July 29, 2012 1:50 PM
We're related to Wallace??? redacted

Sun July 29, 2012 5:29 PM
[Bruce has] been to Bannockburn; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn

Emails from Roy to Bruce on Robert
4/27/2010 1:37 AM
ON TO THE RELATIVES
The movie 1066 is about one. Robert De BRUSSE character was in Patriot starring Mel Gibson. Robert betrayed Mel's character following his fathers advice. 1066 The Movie has been in production about a year now. I wrote in 1980, wondered if we were related to Erik the Red, answer (below). [See Great Ancestor Page under Erik the Red]

This is NOT Robert The Bruce
Roy's 24th Great Grandfather, Robert De BRUSSE b. 1036, Scotland, is the son of Brúsi Sigurðsson, born Abt. 987 AD, from Orkney Islands (Earls), Sigurðsson.
...One source doubts relations with Vikings and descrepancies with names. This will require the most research of all family ties...
While most of our GF's were just poor dirt farmers, there are many holding high offices of the day including a Vassel to our GGF, just found and King FairHair of Norway, he was a busy guy with many, many children. Brúsi Sigurðsson great grandson is our 21st GGF, Magnus III "The Bare-Footed" OLAFSSON, slain in battle on 24 Aug 1103.
UPDATE July 30, 2012: The Robert The Bruce which is the topic of this web page was born in 1274, not earlier as this one was.
See July 29th below for continuation on research of the Brusi born in 987...

2/12/2011 12:47 PM
came across this very cool picture of a King quite awhile ago and it really dumbfounded me. Here I follow adding some children and come across the very same painting at
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II_of_France
    Image is in upper right

    Now his relation is not direct. For me, paintings help bring them alive as well, if done semi-accurately.

    He is Father of mother-in-law of 3rd great grandson of 26th great   grandfather of ours.

Search done: Hafliði Steinsson and Kings guard

Email from Roy to Bruce. Posting the following because Roy is willing to bet this is above Robert The Bruce.
Sun July 29, 2012 3:41 PM
No, Sorry no relationship. I enjoyed Braveheart and something got me going on it....
Wanted to confirm that this was The Bruce
http://www.bofw.co.uk/acatalog/Robert_Bruce_at_Bannockburn_1314__Painted.html
Which led to this. Bohun is mentioned having (redacted - died in battle) by Bruce in figure above.
*Sir Henry de Bohun and bruce*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_de_Bohun

Now reading this to recognize any keywords to look for in research...redacted
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Robert_I_of_Scotland

See that they are all tied together, Robert The Bruce, Wallace. Now reading wiki page on The Bruce.
With The Bruce, a.k.a. Robert I on top list to research. May take 6 months to gather enough to be really certain, yet, I believe I mentioned he was already on our
Great Ancestors page under another name. Created an RnD page on him [this page]
http://www.christopherson.net/genealogy/grandparents3.html#Brusi
.
Have to start over because this entry [Brusi] was related to Magnus III.
Then try and move facts from there and Taylors RnD onto Individuals pages or G.A. page in The Bruce's case. I did not know he spoke French on his fathers side.
Actually other than the name, knew nothing and quite ignorant. While I enjoy History, just never got any good classes in any of the schools to learn it. So all self taught.
redacted

Reading what I already typed below... redacted
"One ancestor which I am trying to clean up his branch, leads to Wallace (Braveheart)."

Was cleaning up the sons of Hafliði Másson which leads down to Hafliði Steinsson, b. Abt. 1252
My notes under Steinsson are as follows, hence starting a journey to Wallace (Braveheart) and back to my original search of Robert The Bruce (this email):

*Hafliði Steinsson NOTES*: Occupation: Prestur á Breiðabólstað og ráðsmaður á Hólum., управител и свещенник, Præst i Breidabolstad og "rádsmadur" i Holum

This Einar’s father was Halfid Steinsson, who for a while was one of the King’s Guards at the Court of King Eirik Magnusson, the Priest-Hater of Norway.

THE MAID OF NORWAY
In the late fourteenth century, Margaret, daughter of King Eric II of Norway, set out on a fateful
journey. At the age of eight, Margaret had been declared Queen of Scotland and was now sailing to
meet her intended bridegroom, Edward, Prince of Wales. A crowd of thousands awaited her at Scone
Abbey. But Margaret never arrived and wedding plans came to naught.
A decade later, a German merchant by the name of Ludwig travels to Iceland with his wife. There,
they cross paths with *Hafliði Steinsson*, a priest who once served as chaplain to King Eric and was
Margaret’s tutor before she left Norway.
Together, they uncover a secret regarding Margaret’s death. Ludwig and his wife embark an adventurous journey that leads them from one country to
another - from Iceland to the Orkney Islands,
Scotland, England, Germany and Norway. The pair encounter Edward I and his son Edward, the future
King of England, as well as their fiercest opponent, the Scot William Wallace (Braveheart), and are
witness to the final battle between these bitter enemies.
By Ragnar Arnalds

. . . from the Ministry to the middle ages
Ragnar Arnalds (b. 1938) is a playwright and author of historical novels. Ragnar was a Member of
Parliament for 32 years, during which time he served as Minister of Education and Transport and
Minister of Finance. The Maid of Norway is his third novel based on historical

From PDF http://uppheimar.is/myndir/uppheimar_foreighnrights2010_web.pdf

When Wallace was growing up, King Alexander III [11] ruled Scotland. His reign had seen a period of peace and economic stability. In 1286, however, Alexander died after falling from his horse.

The heir to the throne was Alexander's granddaughter, Margaret, Maid of Norway. As she was still a child and in Norway, the Scottish lords set up a government of guardians. Margaret fell ill on the voyage to Scotland and died in Orkney. The lack of a clear heir led to a period known as the 'Great Cause', with several families laying claim to the throne.

With Scotland threatening to descend into civil war, King Edward was invited in by the Scottish nobility to arbitrate. Before the process could begin, he insisted that all of the contenders recognise him as Lord Paramount of Scotland. In early November 1292, at a great feudal court held in the castle at Berwick-upon-Tweed, judgement was given in favour of John Balliol having the strongest claim in law.

Edward proceeded to reverse the rulings of the Scottish Lords and even summoned King John Balliol to stand before the English court as a common plaintiff. John was a weak king, known as "Toom Tabard" or "Empty Coat". John renounced his homage in March 1296 and by the end of the month Edward stormed Berwick-upon-Tweed, sacking the then-Scottish border town. In April, the Scots were defeated at the Battle of Dunbar in East Lothian and by July, Edward had forced John to abdicate. Edward then instructed his officers to receive formal homage from some 1,800 Scottish nobles (many of the rest being prisoners of war at that time)
wiki for wallace" (Braveheart) - END
RC


Sun July 29, 2012 1:50 PM
One ancestor which I am trying to clean up his branch, leads to Wallace (Braveheart).
redacted

Goes into Robert The Bruce which is on my To Do list, along with 6 other immediate tasks, and Maid of Norway's death, which started me reading all this. All inter-twined. Related to Haakon, King.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wallace


One reason Wallace has stuck in Roy's brain besides Bruce's curiosity and help has been the Sign-off by Barbara Simpson Show featuring Gibson yelling Freedom prior to his demise in the movie.

From the Christopherson Family DataBase:
Brúsi Sigurðsson, a.k.a. Brusi SIGURDSSON, 16th Jarl of ORKNEY, Born Abt. 987 AD, Orkneyjum (Orkney) [1] Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland [2]
Died Aft. 31 Aug 1030 [2] Here he is listed on our Great Ancestor page.
PDF
This link to a PDF report is on Brúsi Sigurðsson.

PDF
Relationship Chart_CnutTheGreatToRoy.pdf

PDF
This link to a PDF report is on Bruce to Brúsi Sigurðsson.

NOTES:
Age at death: possibly 44 years old Sources: - person: HH

once source doubts relations with Vikings and descrepancies with names. This will require the most research of all family ties.

An interesting account is found in Florence Van Rensselaer, The Livingston Family in America and Its Scottish Origins, New York, 1949, pages 30 and 31: BRUCE (BRUS, BRUSI, BRUSEE)

The first Bruce to go to Normandy, had left Orkney, where his forbears had been earls, or jarls, since the fifth generation from their earliest known ancestor Sveide, of Upland, a Viking, circa 760, who ruled until he died, and thereafter his descendants for three generations lived in Denmark and Norway, one Sigurd, becoming the first Earl of Orkney. For six more generations, these hardy men fought by land and sea, when another Sigurd, the seventh Earl, married for his second wife Olith or Thora, daughter of Malcolm II, king of Scotland, and his grandson married as his second wife, Felicia, daughter of Robert Duke of Normandy, her brother being William the Conqueror. Their second son was named Brusi, or Robert de Brusee who first went to Norway, but before long attached himself to the service of his maternal grandfather, and settled in Normandy, where he became eminent and powerful in that Court; being Councillor to Robert I, Duke of Normandy, the grandfather referred to, built the Castle of “la Brusee or Bruis”, now Brix, which became “the Crade of the royal house of Scotland,” and married Emma, daughter of Alain, Earl of Brittany. Again after six generations the three last having been barons of Annandale, and all but two named Robert, came,...

...Brusi, Earl of Orkney, and Earl of Cathanes and Sutherland. He died in 1031; married Ostrida, daughter of Regenwald Wolfson, Earl of Gothland. Earl Brusi held two-thirds of Orkney, by the support of King Olaf, of which he lost one half in 1030. He was converted to Christianity in the eleventh century. http://www.robertsewell.ca/bruce.html

Malcolm II of Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_II_of_Scotland
Máel Coluim mac Cináeda (Modern Gaelic: Maol Chaluim mac Choinnich, known in modern anglicized regnal lists as Malcolm II; died 25 November 1034), was King of the Scots from 1005 until his death He was a son of Cináed mac Maíl Coluim; the Prophecy of Berchán says that his mother was a woman of Leinster and refers to him as Máel Coluim Forranach, "the destroyer".

Search for Poppa, Charlemagne, and Rollo yield no hits in The Complete Peerage, except this enjoyable quote

''People don't know how entertaining a study it
[genealogy] is. Who begot whom is a most
amusing kind of hunting; one recovers a grandfather
instead of breaking one's own neck—and
then one grows so pious to the memory of a
thousand persons one never heard of before?''
Horace Walpole to the Rev.
Mr. Cole, 5 June 1775.
Search on Robert Burnet Jones held the office of Attorney-General [Barbados]. This just caught my attention.
http://thepeerage.com/p2431.htm Which is easier to search than the PDF book

July 30, 2012 2:39 AM

* THE BRUCE:
My mother (Lilja Costello) told me (Bruce) stories of Robert Bruce. I remember in particular the one about the spider. She told me her grandmother (Caroline) had told her. She also said we were related somehow because of Norfolk (Fitzalan-Howard, Fitzalan being descendents of Bruce).
 
Whether she had it right or not, can't say. One does not question one's mother when she is telling you that you were named for this Great King, and related to him to boot!
 
To this day I try and avoid harming spiders in my house... poisonous ones excepted.

-BC
PDF
This link to a PDF report is on Relationship on Brúsi Sigurðsson to Bruce .


Rögnvaldur Brúsason
Our 23rd Great Grandfather, Rögnvaldur Brúsason, a.k.a. Ragnvald (Rognvald) BRUSESSON II, son of Brúsi Sigurðsson, born 1011 at Orkney, Orkney Islands, Scotland.
Died Dec 1046 at Papa Stronsay, Orkney Islands, Scotland, was Earl of Orkney jointly with Thorfinn Sigurdsson from about 1037 onwards. His life is recorded in the Orkneyinga Saga.

Our 22nd Great Grandmother, daughter of Rögnvaldur Brúsason was Þóra Rögnvaldsdóttir, born abt. 1030 at Godoy, More Og Romsdal, Norway
Drottning í Noregi (Queen of Norway). She married Olaf III "The Tranquil" HARALDSSON

Our 21st Great Grandfather King Magnús berfættur Ólafsson (Magnus Barefoot) a.k.a. Magnus III "The Bare-Footed" OLAFSSON,
born 1073 at Folkinsberg, Eidsberg, Ostfold, Kingdom of Norway.
Died 24 Aug 1103, slain in battle, vicinity of Downpatrick, now Down County Northern Ireland.

See lineage under Sigurd III

Lineage to the Scots
On down to us
10th GGF - Páll Jónsson
11th GGF - Jón Gamlason
12th GGM - Valgerdur Thorvaldsdottir, b. 1360
13th GGF - Þorvaldur Guðmundsson, b. Abt. 1330
14th GGM - Groa Oddsdottir, b. Abt. 1290 [3]
15th GGF - At this point we have two GGF - Oddur Orvarðsson, b. 1260 This lineage continues using him
16th GGM - Solveig Halfdanardottir, b. 1235
17th GGF - Hálfdan Sæmundarson, b. 1200
18th GGF - Sæmundur Jónsson, b. 1154 [3]
19th GGF - Jón Loftsson, b. 1124 Oddi, Rangarvalla, Iceland [3]
20th GGM - Þóra Magnúsdóttir (direct descendant of Harald Fairhair)
21st GGF - Magnus III "The Bare-Footed" OLAFSSON
22nd GGM - Þóra Rögnvaldsdóttir (Drottning í Noregi / Queen of Norway), Þóra married to Olaf III "The Tranquil" HARALDSSON, son of King Harald III of Norway
23rd GGF - Rögnvaldur Brúsason (19th Jarl of ORKNEY)
24th GGF - Brúsi Sigurðsson (16th Jarl of ORKNEY, General, Army of King of Olaf, Norway
25th GGM - Anleta (Thora Donada) MACKENNETH (Princess Of SCOTLAND) and Sigurd II "Digri" HLODVERSSON, and married Finlaech (Findlaech) Mormaer
26th GGF - Malcolm II (Melkolf) MACKENNETH (KING OF SCOTLAND)
27th GGF - Kenneth II (King of Alba)
28th GGF - Malcolm I or Mael Coluim (King of Scotland)
29th GGF - Donald VI (King of Scotland)
30th GGF - Constantine I or Causantin (King of Scotland)
31st GGF - Kenneth I (King of Scotland)
32nd GGF - Alpin (Became king 858 in Scotland )
33rd GGF - Eochaidh "the Poisonous" (King of Dalriada)
12 generations
45th GGF - Eochaid Muinremur, Abt. 380 AD, Dalraida, Northern Ireland (Pretty cool. Not everyone could name their 45th Great Grandfather)

RnD July 39th, 2012 - Back to Robert The Bruce
Anyone related to the Christophersons and Taylors would have an interest in the following.

As posted elsewhere, Sigurdur Christopherson, his wife Caroline Taylor and her father; William Stuart Taylor, and her uncle John Taylor were very involved in New Iceland.
Just uploaded link to online text book I am "just now entering to research". I believe it will hold all the answers to connection to Robert The Bruce. Just need to get more concrete reference and citations. The link to this book written over 100 years ago, should list enough to glean verification on persons already in our families branches.

The above text of this RnD page is now a final draft. Was up until 4 AM and could not sleep until the Reports were added. Luxury of being off this following day.
When visitors have free time, follow along and check the progress on this page.

Caroline Taylor knew more than she let on in her diary, which is in a few retyped pages within a Black binder. Carol Jarvie's daughter retyped a 100 pages of family letters. Being private, the three British Columbia cousins did not want them online.
I copied a few letters Sig/Hank had, mostly from Great aunt Veiga to Kay (Kjartan). Mostly late in life.

Your information you passed on that "Caroline Taylor considered herself a ScotsWoman, not English, and your being named after 'The Bruce' certainly seems true and not just a pioneer families imagination. As said before, I believe once I establish the identity of Caroline Taylors Great Grandmother, it will look like Will Smith injecting that Neuronet in iRobot, and spread quickly across England and Scottish ancestors.
Every month, more cousins contact me.

We now have Richard Taylors burial loc. and marker, once his Mother-In-Law, born a Leslie in Barbados, marrying a Jones, from a different religion, we will have something great to pass on.
Roy

Full text of Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS [5] Written in 1907
While this is an unedited OCR copy of the book in text form, better than nothing. Click Bruce link above to view text book online. Added new link under References below.
Table of Content

Chapters below
CHAPTER I
CHAPTER II
CHAPTER III
CHAPTER IV
CHAPTER V
CHAPTER VI
CHAPTER VII
CHAPTER VIII
CHAPTER IX
CHAPTER XI
CHAPTER XIII
CHAPTER XIV
CHAPTER XV

  LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS, 15
GENERAL INTRODUCTION AND HISTORICAL SURVEY, . . 19
SCANDINAVIAN ORIGIN, 29
THE BRUGES IN SCOTLAND, 55
KING ROBERT BRUCE, OF SCOTLAND, 75
BRUGES OF CLACKMANNAN, CULTMALINDIE, AND CAITH- NESS, 91
BRUGES OF KINLOSS, ELGIN, AND KINCARDINE, ... 109 9 CONTENTS
PAGE BRUGES OF AIRTH, 127
THE CAVENDISH-BRUCE FAMILY OF THE DUKES OF DEVONSHIRE, 139
ROYAL HOUSE OF STEWART, 153 CHAPTER X LINE OF THE IRISH KINGS, 177
ANCIENT ROYAL HOUSE OF SCOTLAND, 191 CHAPTER XII LINE OF THE SAXON KINGS, 209
BRUCE ANCESTRY FROM ROYAL HOUSES OF CONTINEN- TAL EUROPE, 223
COLLATERAL FAMILIES OF SCOTLAND, 247
CASTLES AND CHURCHES, 281 10
Note, before even entering the book, Roy notices Chapter 2 - Scandinavian Origins. On the Great Ancestors page, Roy noted that "Poppa would take one of the most extensive searches". Chapter 2 seems to dispell this. Keep in mind, no research by Roy should be copied or reposted on the Internet. Why?, because a good portion of it is not 100% accurate. I make no bones about that. One Goal is to bring the family members to the world, mostly the forgotten or unknown ones, Like The Stoneson Brothers.
Another goal is to locate relatives in order to find more older photos and connect to each other, since we are now spread about the globe. Roy now realizes that is what happened to the Taylors, Richard and Eliza. He started in England and she in Barbados.

"UPON the pages of Scottish history no name shines brighter than that of Bruce." p. 19

recognizes our subject as "King Robert Bruce— THE BRUCE" p. 21
"On the following pages the line has been genealogically traced, generation by generation, to early in the eighth century. " p. 21

the most wonderful conquering and colonizing movements that the world had ever known. In fast-sailing ships the vikings and their followers made incursions upon Northern Europe and the islands of Britain. They considered war the most honorable profession and, even as Tacitus said of the Germans, "they deemed it a disgrace to acquire by sweat what they might obtain by blood." Or, as another ancient historian quaintly wrote, they were "people desperate in at- tempting the conquest of other realms, being very sure to finde warmer dwellings anywhere than in their own homes." They harried England, Denmark, and Europe, plundering cities, devastating countries, and carrying away spoils by the ship-load. Of such mettle were these progenitors of the royal house of Bruce.

On the direct male line the Bruce pedigree goes to Sveide, a viking who lived in the middle of the eighth century. On the distaff side the pedigree is traced through various lines, male and female, to the founders of the several principalities or kingdoms that finally became the nation of Norway.

In the most ancient chronology Odin, a prince who, in the fourth or fifth century of the Christian era, was driven, by the Romans, from his domains on the border of the North Sea, led his Germanic tribes to the Northland. He was a famous warrior, always victorious, and when he died he divided his new kingdom between his sons and companions in arms. His son Skioldr established himself at Lethra upon the island of Zeeland and founded the kingdom of Denmark. In the course of time, sacrifices were made to Odin, he received
'Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS', Page 30

divine honors, and was worshiped as the creator of the uni- verse. Some authors regard him entirely as a mythological personage, while others believe in his historical existence. But the list of Scandinavian kings who claimed descent from him is accepted by historians without reserve, after the seventh century.*

Beginning with Skioldr, son of Odin, the fourteenth king of Lethra was Half dan II., son of Frode III. The kingdom was divided between the two sons of Halfdan into Lethra and Roeskilde, but in a later generation was reunited by Ivar Vid- fami of Roeskilde, the son of Halfdan III. Sniale by his wife Alfo. Halfdan III. was a son of Olaj, the Sharp-eyed, of the Rurik line of kings who were foremost among those eastern princes whose territories and powers were ultimately merged in the Russian empire.

With Ivar Vidfami, or Widefathom, we are on firmer his- torical ground. His father Halfdan III. was murdered by Gudrod, King of Scandia, and the son went forth to Sweden with an army to avenge the death of his parent. King In- giald, whose daughter Asa had instigated her husband Gud- rod to kill Halfdan, was so hard pressed that he burned him- self and all his court in a big banqueting hall. After this Ivar acquired "all the Swede land," Denmark, a "great part of Saxon-land," all the East-realm, and part of England. From him came the early kings of Sweden and of Denmark.

Auda Diuphaudza, daughter of Ivar Vidfami, married Rad-
* Manuel d'Histoire, de Genealogie et de Chronologic de tous les Etats du Globe, by A. M. H. J. Stokvis, Vol. II, p. 320.
'Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS', Page 31

COOL, the whole book appears to be here
http://www.unz.org/Pub/WeeksLyman-1907n02



CITATION & SOURCES
[1] http://www.halfdan.is:2317/halfdan_f?lang=en;i=519118 (Private db)
[2] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=buchroeder&id=I576257889
[3] http://www.halfdan.is DataBase of 500,000+
[4] source
[5] Book of Bruce; BY LYMAN HORACE WEEKS Author of Prominent Families of New York 1907
"Book of Bruce; ancestors and descendants of King Robert of Scotland. Being an historical and genealogical survey of the kingly
and noble Scottish house of Bruce and a full account of its principal collateral families. With special reference to the Bruces of Clackmannan,
Cultmalindie, Caithness, and the Shetland Islands, and their American descendants
"
Copy of actual book rather than Text only is here http://www.unz.org/Pub/WeeksLyman-1907n02